Glamping tent Broken poles

[Moondog55]

OK so it was cheap [$115-] and there's always a reason things are cheap isn't here.
Started to put it up in the back yard before leaving feedback and there are several shattered pole sections. Now I can go to Rays Tent City and buy a repair kit with 4 sections ferrules and shockcord for $19- but that is for cheap Chinese pultruded poles
BCF have the much better [ but still made in China] ones that look like the Durawrap type for $30- for the 4 sections
I have been unable to find any real information on the strength of the double wrapped type Vs the cheap pultruded type so asking for help there.
Also if I buy the stronger sections is there any place in the wand that takes any more stress than any other and where the stronger sections would be best utilised.
The seller of the tent won't reply to my questions about how the poles broke but the shattered sections are in the same place; 2 up from the ground both ends on one wand and 4 up and 2 up on the other
If cash wasn't so tight at the moment I'd be tempted to replace all of them
If the Boss decides she likes Glamping a new tent may well be authorised in the future and I'm already window shopping

[Moondog55]

Some quick customer service praise for the staff at Rays
They had sold out of repair pole kits, but the assistant manager spend a good half hour searching out the back for some second hand poles to get me out of trouble and only charged me $2- each for the 5 poles I needed and threw in 2 others that weren't quite up to scratch "Just in Case"
I did call OzTrail and ask for information on the construction and strength of their "Duratuff" poles but was told they have no information at all "They just sell them" a pretty poor effort I think

[whynotwalk]

OzTrail

Ahh .. OzTrail

I'm reminded of finding a collapsed and abandoned tent with that brand name in the Walls of Jerusalem once. Admittedly it had been snowing - but it means I will always steer away from that brand,

cheers

Peter

[Moondog55]

Not meant for that place or those sort of conditions but were the poles intact? ROLF

[whynotwalk]

I can't remember the state of the poles md, but the owner had simply abandoned it as a lost cause! As you say, completely unsuitable for the conditions. But, as an aside to your original issue, it is amazing how many pup tents, K-Mart tents and other "play" things are taken out in the Tassie highlands.

cheers

Peter

[stry]

But, as an aside to your original issue, it is amazing how many pup tents, K-Mart tents and other "play" things are taken out in the Tassie highlands.

cheers

Peter

No mentoring, no knowledge. Pretty much the same in most outdoor activities nowadays.

[Moondog55]

Yeah but ask Easton or DAC for info and you get heaps
I notice even the cheap Chinese sellers on Aliexpress are starting to list the alloy grade and temper these days [ 7007/T6 usually] I do think it's a shame most people treat these sort of tents as disposable and don't set them up correctly or maintain them

[Moondog55]

Posting a wanted to buy in the Trading post section Maybe I can put together a reinforcing pole using second hand aluminium poles

[Moondog55]

Just had an email from Tom at Tent Pole Technologies in the US that his wrapped poles are about 25 to 30% stronger than a standard pultruded pole

[THREEPOINT]

But, as an aside to your original issue, it is amazing how many pup tents, K-Mart tents and other "play" things are taken out in the Tassie highlands.

Not too long ago I was unceremoniously dragged out of a well known Outdoor store by my GF when she realised I was about to give a severe dressing down to a Salesman in there. He was assuring a young couple, with young children I might add, that the generic store brand 4 man tent they were looking at was definitely a four season tent.

[Moondog55]

But, as an aside to your original issue, it is amazing how many pup tents, K-Mart tents and other "play" things are taken out in the Tassie highlands.

Not too long ago I was unceremoniously dragged out of a well known Outdoor store by my GF when she realised I was about to give a severe dressing down to a Salesman in there. He was assuring a young couple, with young children I might add, that the generic store brand 4 man tent they were looking at was definitely a four season tent.

ROLF I have been taken to task by Significant Others for that very same thing
A lot of sales people are totally unaware of the need to "Tell the Truth" when making a sales-pitch.

[Moondog55]

Freecycle can be a wonderful place sometimes
I just was given a whole stack of FG poles including several small diameter wrapped ones which is really going to help the experimentation.

[Moondog55]

What has happened to technical excellence and basic English these days
Here is the response to my query from a Coleman customer service person

Quote"
Thank you for your email.
Dura wrap poles don’t splitter and puncture your fly if they were to snap.
The Dura wrap poles have an extra coating or “wrap” over the fibreglass pole that does a great job of reducing the splintering and offers a better result for the fly if a pole was to break.
It is more stronger and able to flex more than a standard fibreglass pole.
The fibreglass poles tend to splitter, and unfortunately normally puncture the fly leaving it unusable.
Endquote

What I asked for was the Youngs modulus and tensile strength, do people even read these emails?