Fire steels and methylated spirits

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Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Watertank » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 12:28 pm

Will fire steels light methylated spirits in a trangia or similar stoves?
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby DanShell » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 12:29 pm

Watertank wrote:Will fire steels light methylated spirits in a trangia or similar stoves?


Yes :D
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby icefest » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 12:36 pm

Most of the time.

As the spark can only light vaporised metho, you need to have some vaporisation happening which is hard when it's really cold out.

It might take a couple of extra goes but usually works, some carbon felt might increase the surface area enough to make it go on the first strike.
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Watertank » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 12:51 pm

Great, thanks for the replies. I felt a bit of a dill on a recent trip overseas when I had the metho and the stove but I had left matches at home not wanting to carry them on the plane...
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Gadgetgeek » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 12:55 pm

an empty bic or zippo works as well, but you might loose some hair on your hand.
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby ErichFromm » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 2:59 pm

I find ferro rods easier to use for this than lighters - you can throw a spark but throwing a zippo is not a good idea :)
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Gadgetgeek » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 5:36 pm

No doubt about that!
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Travis22 » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 6:26 pm

As mentioned above the colder it gets the harder it is to light metho with just a spark. In the snow it can be a real pain sometimes!
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby corvus » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 8:07 pm

I only use "fire steels" and have found that they will ignight many things with ease however what type of burner are you attempting to use ?
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Watertank » Thu 26 Feb, 2015 10:56 pm

Corvus, I have one of the Tato Alcohol Wick stoves sold by Tier gear.
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby corvus » Fri 27 Feb, 2015 6:49 pm

With that burner the solution is easy I believe, scrunch up a sheet of TP (breaks down the fibers) and sit it on top of your burner scrape some ferro on it then create a spark you should get a flame in no time and stove ignition :)
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Watertank » Sat 28 Feb, 2015 12:13 pm

Thanks for all the advice; fire steel purchased and tested - it lights metho on this stove without any problem.
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby corvus » Sat 28 Feb, 2015 8:43 pm

Good one eh!! :)
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Zone-5 » Sat 28 Feb, 2015 11:01 pm

Any one recommend a very good fire-steel?
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Bubbalouie » Sat 28 Feb, 2015 11:10 pm

Zone-5 wrote:Any one recommend a very good fire-steel?

I have a genuine exotac nano striker and an aliexpress imitation (same basic design doesn't have the branding on it).

The aliexpress one is pretty rough in terms of build quality (poor tolerances and anodising) but actually works really well, I'd say better than the exotac actually.
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby zebee » Sun 01 Mar, 2015 8:04 am

I rather like the Light My Fire knife and firesteel combo.

The knife is a decent cooking and general knife, the firesteel works reliably. Including lighting the Trangia!

(Almost certainly too horribly heavy for ultralighters, fine for me)
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby Gadgetgeek » Sun 01 Mar, 2015 8:30 am

there are only a few manufacturers of firesteels. In general, the light my fire ones are quite good, as are most that are available without handles. but they all require testing before relying on them. Since the exact ratio in the alloy, and the hardness of the rod matter quite a bit when it comes to performance, I've found there can be a significant difference between two rods.
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby thejungleisneutral » Sun 01 Mar, 2015 12:03 pm

Scrape or sand the black stuff off and the rods themselves all work pretty easily when needed.

Last year I tested a bunch of brand name ferro rods against their cheap and nasty Chinese clones in both "workbench" and field conditions and found very little difference in the efficiency of the ferro rod itself when used to light dry stringybark bullswool, although the quality of the things it was glued to like plastic handles and "magnesium" bars and such varied wildly.

The only caution I have to add with using a ferro rod to light a metho stove is to make sure that the person using said ferro rod is adept in its use lest they knock over their Trangia burner trying to "get the b@$tard to light!!!" :-D
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Re: Fire steels and methylated spirits

Postby corvus » Sun 01 Mar, 2015 7:12 pm

Zone-5 wrote:Any one recommend a very good fire-steel?


I only use el cheapo ones and they all work however the cheapest one has only a very small ferro insert still works but limited life.
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