Snakeprotex snake gaiters

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Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby LandSailor » Fri 20 Mar, 2015 1:59 pm

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with SnakeProtex snake gaiters and how they compare to other gaiters. I am considering these for my next pair.
Edit: I just rang a shop and the price was $132 a pair.



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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 20 Mar, 2015 7:05 pm

The fit around the boot doesn't look that flash.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 20 Mar, 2015 9:08 pm

Looks good for the intended use but I have my doubts about bushwalking in them, they will probably be hot, sweaty and heavy
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby Strider » Fri 20 Mar, 2015 10:04 pm

GPSGuided wrote:The fit around the boot doesn't look that flash.

= wet legs in the first puddle
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby DarrenM » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 5:32 am

Good Idea!

I'll take sweaty legs over a bite any day, and with the hundreds of snake encounters we've had over the years while canyoning in summer, it may be worth a look. I've been tagged on the boot by a brown and watched my brother almost get bitten by standing on what appeared to be a nest of the little buggers!

I wear gaiters in the slim hope that I'll get tagged and not actually bitten.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby stry » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 6:57 am

Summer canyoning aside, it appears to me that far too many people walking in normal country (whatever normal is) concern themselves far too much with the possibility of snake bite.

Sensible levels of awareness and alertness, and appropriately covered skin when deemed desirable are required. Tight, thin clothing is not appropriate cover in this context.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby LandSailor » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 9:21 am

For anyone interested, I just rang a shop and the price was $132 for a pair. The guy in the shop said he's had a few people come back to say they had bites with no problem.

I know its a small risk but snakebites are one of the reasons why I wear gaiters so makes sense to get something that is purpose-designed to protect against this. I think most of the gaiters we see here in Australia are designed/manufactured overseas so little consideration is given to snakebite protection.

I wonder if there is some room for innovation. Make a gaiter that includes lightweight vented carbon-fibre plates of some description to be really resistant to snakebite (yet hopefully still comfortable to wear).
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby stry » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 11:59 am

All gaiters that I am aware of cover only up to just below the knee :)
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby LandSailor » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 12:51 pm

stry wrote:All gaiters that I am aware of cover only up to just below the knee :)


If you want the ultimate protection..... :D

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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby Moondog55 » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 1:28 pm

Most of the gardeners around here [and Tigers are the reason] wear the S2S canvas gaiter and i've never heard of theose being penetrated and causing an injury, my uncle and cousins simply wore tall gumboots on the dairy farm in Colac. I think we worry far too much, in over 40 years in heavy snake infested country, even in Tiger country I've never been struck at and I try and avoid known Tiger snake habitat in the mating season
Wasps now? Those foreign Hornets I worry about
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby Empty » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 2:28 pm

Not a bad idea from a marketing perspective as it plays on a persons fear of snakes. From what I have read Australia's vennomous snakes are relatively short fanged with the average length of fang for a fully grown snake around 5 to 7 mm. The exception is the death adder which has fangs up to 20mm which suits its style of ambush hunting.

The suggestion is that most snakes are unlikely to be able to envonomate through a sturdy shoe or even a thick, bunch up woolen sock so probably most gaiters afford protection enough without having to spend more than required.

As already mentioned, the likelihood of a snake bite is pretty remote at the best of times.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby DarrenM » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 2:52 pm

Moondog55 wrote:Wasps now? Those foreign Hornets I worry about


Wasps! I get stung at least once a week in warm weather. Hate the buggers with a passion because you usually don't see the nest until you've been smashed a few times first.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby stry » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 3:34 pm

Been stung perhaps three times in my life. One accident and the other(s) perhaps a bit cavalier :)

This seasons nest tally is 23 confirmed kills.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 3:52 pm

There has been many threads on snake and gaiters. What I still haven't got a good feel for are,

1) How many have been bitten whilst bushwalking?
2) How many have been bitten whilst wearing gaiters?
3) How many have been envenomated whilst wearing regular gaiters?

I find it amazing that the shop keeper would say "he's had a few people come back to say they had bites with no problem". The probability of being bitten has just increased 10,000x with that frequency. Or was he just trying to sell more of these?
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby LandSailor » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 4:06 pm

GPSGuided wrote:I find it amazing that the shop keeper would say "he's had a few people come back to say they had bites with no problem". The probability of being bitten has just increased 10,000x with that frequency. Or was he just trying to sell more of these?


Yes because snake-handlers and herpetologists would never buy purpose-designed snake resistant gaiters. Neither would people that work full-time outdoors (during mating season or otherwise). These gaiters are mainly marketed for commercial use as far as I can tell.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 4:11 pm

What did those pros use in the past? How many have been bitten in the past? How many of those pros have fallen ill or died? I am just trying to get a real sense of the incidence of these events.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby peregrinator » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 4:16 pm

GPSGuided wrote:There has been many threads on snake and gaiters. What I still haven't got a good feel for are,

1) How many have been bitten whilst bushwalking?
2) How many have been bitten whilst wearing gaiters?
3) How many have been envenomated whilst wearing regular gaiters?

I find it amazing that the shop keeper would say "he's had a few people come back to say they had bites with no problem". The probability of being bitten has just increased 10,000x with that frequency. Or was he just trying to sell more of these?


I'm too cynical to be amazed. That so-called claim simply reinforced my cynicism.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby DarrenM » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 4:20 pm

General bushwalking would not be the target user I'd imagine. I walk through long grass on acreage and come into contact with a few snakes during summer and you simply don't see them until its almost too late. Perfect for commercial use in that regard but the most I've encountered are usually in the Blueys during summer.

I'm not scared of snakes and my paranoia is in check but would consider them. The average person simply doesn't spend that much time exposed to them. I have a good mate that catches and relocates snakes for a living and he'd laugh if these were mentioned, but he handles them every day.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby LandSailor » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 4:38 pm

DarrenM wrote:I'm not scared of snakes and my paranoia is in check but would consider them. The average person simply doesn't spend that much time exposed to them. I have a good mate that catches and relocates snakes for a living and he'd laugh if these were mentioned, but he handles them every day.


Yes Im not rushing out to buy them. My current pair are old but still usable and I think would provide adequate protection. However when I need a new pair, and all other things being equal, Id be happy to pay a few extra bucks for something specifically designed to be snake-resistant.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby corvus » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 8:37 pm

Those Snakes in the Video looked stressed and wanting to escape rather than being aggressive, the Snakes I have encountered in my walks here in Tassie have either sped off or raised up and "barked "to warn me off.
Just how many Snake bites do we have in proportion to their wide spread distribution ?
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby corvus » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 8:42 pm

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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby stry » Sat 21 Mar, 2015 9:54 pm

I just don't get this focus on gaiters and snakes.

Sure, I wear them a lot of the time, but hands, thighs, and face also make excellent targets depending on where you are and what you are doing.

The young man killed by an aggressive tiger snake in East Gippsland before Christmas was bitten on the shoulder and/or the upper arm.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby DarrenM » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 8:27 am

It's about reducing the risk for those that are regularly coming into contact with them. I have trodden on a couple of browns already, one of which recoiled and bit my boot. I have had to jump over numerous black snakes which are prolific along the Cox river and elsewhere in the Blueys. I've also had to stay absolutely still as a small Brown countoured my boot at Kanangra. I could tell you of plenty more incidents but the point is, some of us do come into dangerous encounters on a regular basis based on the amount of time we spend outdoors. I also work in snake country.

Of course you can get bitten elsewhere but like helmets for climbing or Avy beacons for backcountry, they only reduce some of the risk some of the time.

These aren't targeted for the average bushwalker.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby Empty » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 12:04 pm

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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby DarrenM » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 1:25 pm

Empty wrote::roll:

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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby walkerchris77 » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 4:28 pm

I have a pair. $90 on ebay.
I like them and feel safe in them. Good for walking through thick bush. Prickles and thorns dont stand a chance.
I like how the zip does up from the top down so they can't come undone. They come up high to which gives good protection and also good to sit on at your camp site.

They will make you sweat but its not a big deal to me.
There are smaller and lighter ones out there but im happy with them.
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby corvus » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 7:27 pm

I guess that the boot in the photo is your work wear and not your walking boot :lol:
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby vicrev » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 8:29 pm

Is that a 10mm spanner in the pic ? where can i get bolt on gaiters ? .....................sorry Chris,just cant help it,all jokes aside ,Im on ebay next to buy a pair,they look good.... :D
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Re: Snakeprotex snake gaiters

Postby walkerchris77 » Mon 23 Mar, 2015 7:16 am

He he. I should include a 10 mm spanner in all my pixs and it can be like wheres wally.

And i do actually bush walk in those boots. I think i got so used to wearing gp boots in the military im stuck in my old ways. Maybe i should buy some new light weight walking boots. I'll have a think...
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