Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to brush

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Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to brush

Postby keithy » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 10:13 am

Hydration bladder tube cleaning tip - the cheap DIY alternative to using a Camelbak/Source tube cleaning brush.

I have an older style Camelbak hydration bladder with insulating bag. I got lazy on my last trip, and must have left water in the tube and not cleaned and fully dried it before forgetting about it.

After a month or so, I took it out of the pack it lives in, and find the inside of the tube all gross with mould and dark coloured gunk - I didn't take pics as I was sufficiently grossed out. Short of throwing it out and getting another tube, I set about cleaning the bag my normal way, some hot water, some vinegar and letting it dry out properly.

My hydration bladder is the older one where the tube is really hard to get take off from the bottom of the bladder, and didn't come with the quick release. I don't use the official Camelbak cleaning kit, just either use a vinegar or bleach solution and hot water to clean it out.

After running a few cleaning cycles - the tube looked ok, and after a good drying, and a taste test, it came up ok, or so I thought.

I recently bought a quick connect kit so I can take the bladder out and fill it quickly without having to fiddle with the hose and how it goes through my pack. I bought the Source quick connect kit which was a bit cheaper than the Camelbak one, and it fits ok. To fit it, you have to cut the original hose close to the connection to the bladder to fit the new valve in.

Once I did that, I thought, I should try to clean the hose properly. I took a cotton bud, wet it with some vinegar, and cleaned the inside of the tube as far as the bud would go, and the cotton bud head came out gross and quite dirty (dark brownish stains) - even though the tube looked clear.

I was looking for a way to clean it, having tried using the cotton bud and a piece of string to pull it through, but that proved difficult. I even put the wet cotton bud in and did a blowgun thing forcing it through the tube with reasonable results, and pulling the string to retrieve it. I was looking for some pipe cleaners but thought I'd come up with the same issue - it wouldn't fit through the whole hose.

I was considering succumbing and buying the Camelbak cleaning kit when I thought of straightening a coated wire hangar and putting a piece of cloth at one end. Then I came up with this idea I thought I'd share:

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I had run some vinegar through the hose before I ran the knot through, and the knot cleaned up the gunk on the inside of the tube nicely. The first run, the brownish gunk came off an a tissue and I rinsed out the knot end. By the third go, there was no gunk on the knot.

So if you end up with a grungy tube, and don't have the Camelbak/source tube cleaning brush, this is a cheap alternative.
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby sambar358 » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 2:15 pm

Yep......that shows some interesting lateral thinking with your do-it-youself tube pull-thru jigger. "Necessity is the mother of invention" and all that.

I just use a couple of denture cleaning tablets (Polydent/Steradent).....fill the bladder with water, whack in a couple of tabs and leave them in the bladder for several hours to fizz-away. Rinse-out all the gunk from the bladder and tube with warm water and also give the mouth-piece a wash under the tap and it's all as good as a new one again ! Cheers

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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Strider » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 2:27 pm

Is there a risk that this might result in the liner separating from the tube?
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby keithy » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:23 pm

sambar358 wrote:I just use a couple of denture cleaning tablets (Polydent/Steradent).....fill the bladder with water, whack in a couple of tabs and leave them in the bladder for several hours to fizz-away.


Thanks for the tip. I have heard that the denture cleaning stuff works as well. The thing was, after I ran a few cleaning methods through my tube - a diluted bleach solution/just vinegar/bicarb soda solution, the tube looked ok and the water through it tasted fine, but it wasn't until I scrubbed the inside with the cotton bud to see that even when the tube looked clean, it still had this brown film on the inside.

I think that's why they recommend using the camelback/source tube cleaning brush which looks like this (but to me seems a bit expensive for what it is).
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For what it's worth, the Camelbak instructions for cleaning the tube:
RESERVOIR TUBE CLEANING The best way to care for your reservoir is to clean and dry it after every use, especially if you fill the reservoir with anything other than water.
However, if a reservoir has not been cleaned after every use, and mold or discoloration develops: Use hot water and a CamelBak Cleaning Tablet. (Or use 2 tablespoons of baking soda or bleach instead of CamelBak Cleaning Tab.) Mix the solution inside your reservoir and elevate the reservoir above the tube and Big Bite Valve. Pinch the bite valve, allowing the solution to flow into the drink tube and fill the bite valve. Let the reservoir and cleaning solution sit in the reservoir and drink tube for about 30 minutes. Wash the reservoir with hot water and mild soap. Be sure to completely rinse away the cleaning solution in the reservoir and drink tube before using again. You can also use CamelBak brushes from our Cleaning Kit to scrub your reservoir and drink tube. Brushes are the best way to ensure you are scrubbing all of the areas of the reservoir clean. Once the reservoir is clean, be sure to air dry overnight so no moisture is trapped inside, which can cause mold to grow. These steps will make your reservoir safe for use. If there are still spots left behind, these are permanent mold stains that may not be removable. However, your reservoir is still safe and usable after youve cleaned it.


Strider wrote:Is there a risk that this might result in the liner separating from the tube?

Not sure what liner you mean? the paracord isn't abrasive as such, I just needed the friction to scrub the inside of the tube.

I've got another 1L camelbak which I use when cycling, but the hose is really difficult to detach. I wasn't going to convert this one to a quick release as it doesn't get much use, but I'd like to run the paracord through it and see how dirty the inside of the tube is.

And a side note, the quick connect adapter is fantastic, and will make taking the tube off and letting it fully dry out much easier. Just a tip for anyone wanting to do this though, it is a little easier to soak the end of the tube in hot water to make it easier to attach the connector. Forcing it into the tube was hard work.
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Strider » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:39 pm

Camelbal tubes have a food-safe clear liner bonded to the inside of them. Its essentially a tube inside a tube. I guess if the ends can take a barb fitting it shouldn't be an issue though.
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby keithy » Fri 01 May, 2015 10:45 pm

Strider wrote:Camelbal tubes have a food-safe clear liner bonded to the inside of them. Its essentially a tube inside a tube. I guess if the ends can take a barb fitting it shouldn't be an issue though.


I had a closer look at my cleaned hose, and see the liner you mean. There's very limited risk of delaminating the liner from the tube. But I noticed on the bite valve end, when I've been reattaching the bite valve, I must have been forcing the bite valve not carefully enough and pushed the inner layer a bit so it has delaminated about 1mm or less. I'll fix that by trimming the tube.

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sambar358 wrote:Yep......that shows some interesting lateral thinking with your do-it-youself tube pull-thru jigger. "Necessity is the mother of invention" and all that.


I do tend to like repurposing things I already have. Here's another Camelbak example:

A few years ago I was tired of getting my uncovered bite valve dirty when putting the pack down on the ground, and the official Camelbak Big Bite Valve Cover was around $15. Quite expensive when compared to the $70ish cost of my Camelbak unbottle 2L pack.

So I found a couple of tops from cosmetic bottle push spray bottles that fit over the bite valve:

Used a heated nail to punch two small holes at the top, feed a length of 1mm nylon cord through the holes, tie a knot to form a loop and burn ends of the cord, and voila - free dust/dirt bite valve cover.

The cord just hitch loops around the hose, and in 3 years of using it, I've never lost the DIY dirt cover. I made a few spares at the time, and put them on my other Camelbak hoses as well, and it fits both the L shaped and standard big bite valve.
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Hiking Noob » Fri 01 May, 2015 11:03 pm

I must use mine too often, my tube lining dies from UV damage and I have to throw the hoses out but they never seem to get any nasty stuff in there. I do know that if I drink water that has been in there for a while I do get the early symptoms of a cold but hey it's probably doing my immune system good.

I am going to try some food grade silicone hose next time as the Camelbak and Source stuff is too stiff.

Also hahahah at the bite valve cover, wuss, that's how people end up with peanut allergies ;)
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Zone-5 » Wed 06 May, 2015 2:20 am

Great article on an issue that I'm faced with today.

As for tube cleaning, I flush it through with Bicarbonate soda water solution and then pull the bite end off and leave the valve open for it to dry out.

To dry the tube out I grab one end and twirl it at speed until all the residual water comes flying out by centrifugal force!

Sterident fizzy denture cleaning tablets (I don't have dentures (yet)) seem to be the best food grade bladder cleaning agent I can find so far...

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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Gulliver3 » Sat 09 May, 2015 8:23 am

sighted your post Keithy just after I went out bought two covers for $20 !
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby keithy » Sat 09 May, 2015 2:05 pm

Gulliver3 wrote:sighted your post Keithy just after I went out bought two covers for $20 !
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Isn't that always the case? I usually see stuff cheaper than I paid - shortly after buying new gear...

But at least your official covers look nicer than my DIY. When I made mine I didn't find anyone who had them for less than $15.
Hiking Noob wrote:I must use mine too often, my tube lining dies from UV damage and I have to throw the hoses out but they never seem to get any nasty stuff in there...

Also hahahah at the bite valve cover, wuss, that's how people end up with peanut allergies ;)

Haha that's funny. I did it mainly for as I didn't like the extra grit that comes with putting the bite valve on the ground.

BTW how old was your tube? My original tube is at least 10 years old and has no signs of UV damage. Compared against a cheap bladder that came with a cycling hydration pack - that one has a clear tube and bladder and hasn't been used but have yellowed in around 6 years. Oh I don't use an insulation sleeve either - I tried one at -5 to -10 and the water still froze in the tube - so my tube gets exposed to UV where it is visible outside my pack.
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Zone-5 » Sat 09 May, 2015 4:35 pm

I just rebirthed my old a Brita water filter for the Camelbak...

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Got some new filters from Coles nice and cheap and will use it to supply filtered water to the CamelBak.

Seems to help eliminate any off tastes with the bladder after giving the bladder a good warm rinse out with Bicarb-soda.

yum yum... :)
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Gulliver3 » Sat 09 May, 2015 10:06 pm

I reckon dragging an uncovered bite valve in pig poo in New Guinea might not be the best course of action!
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Re: Hydration bladder tube cleaning - cheap alternative to b

Postby Zone-5 » Sun 10 May, 2015 12:22 am

Gulliver3 wrote:I reckon dragging an uncovered bite valve in pig poo in New Guinea might not be the best course of action!


I would carry a spare bite valve if this was ever a remote possibility in my future... ewww!
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