Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

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Re: Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

Postby Ground parrot » Sun 12 Jan, 2025 8:08 pm

The well-publicised deaths themselves are of course the biggest warning to deter others. But this can also make reaching the summit even more of an attraction, and achievement, for the dare devil - or even someone just seeking a bit of "adventure".

One thing that could be done is to clearly re-classify fedders as a rock climb (in the "free solo" style), not a bushwalk. Whilst what people post on individual blogs cant be easily controlled, Parks can take some responsibility for this. The Parks page for the Eastern Arthurs currently states that walkers need to be confident with "cliffs and rock scrambling". That's an understatement for summitting federation peak. It goes on to say "the Eastern Arthur Range Traverse challenges experienced walkers and rewards them with the celebrated Federation Peak (1225m).​ A mecca for walkers and climbers everywhere, Federation Peak is an imposing quartzite moun​tain with sheer faces and formidable jagged edges." This makes it sound quite enticing, no doubt written by the marketing team.

Although people who choose to attempt this walk ought to undertake their own research, and therefore be aware of the risks, it is still likely they are more experienced at bushwalking than rock climbing, and perhaps underestimate the rock climbing skills and mindset required (more than "confidence"). There is obviously a cross over between the two when scrambling is involved in reaching a peak, but fedders seems to really take it to another level with little room for error.

I'm aware that my own bushwalking experience and capabilities would only be sufficient to get me to the base (if that). I would need to dedicate a couple of years to learning rock climbing skills and dealing with heights, and even then make a careful assessment of my own limits before attempting. But of course even doing all of that, the risk remains.

In the end, why do people do it? Well because it is there.
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Re: Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

Postby JamesMc » Sun 12 Jan, 2025 8:10 pm

Bill P wrote:I have now lost two friends to Federation.
There is no comparable Tasmanian peak with such deadly exposure as Federation . A simple slip on Frenchman’s or Cradle or any one of the dozens of most popular Abels is unlikely to kill you.

Federation peak needs to be bolted as a minimum. A chain over the crux would be better. I’ll be astounded if the coroner does not recommend this.


South Geryon - 8 points on the peak-baggers list. No cairned route up when I did it years ago. If you stray to the right, it's 400m down. That's more than Federation Peak.

Frankland Peak - not as high, but high enough to be fatal - you can't practically complete the Frankland Range traverse without either climbing or descending it - with packs.

Governments hate setting precedents that will cost money, including ongoing maintenance. In the Best case, the government does nothing. Worst case, access is prohibited. Parks Victoria has proven to be very enthusiastic about prohibiting access to cliffs. I don't know about Tas Parks.
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Re: Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

Postby phATty » Mon 13 Jan, 2025 6:30 am

Condolences, Bill.

I think I agree with the general consensus on this forum. Indeed, nature is not there to make allowances for us. If we make the decision to ascend Federation Peak because it's within our skill set we must accept that the risks are entirely out of our control. I have been having similar conversations with friends about accessibility, i.e., a completely unrelated but parallel example, the new Cradle Mountain viewing shelter. If we have an objective of conservation we can't just make things more accessible or less risky by implementing infrastructure. If I'm diving and a great white comes up to me and swallows me whole, we don't just go and cull all the great whites, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd think they'd be a major part of the ocean ecosystem. Another example is one of my friend's distain for snakes after snakes killed two of their dogs, there's no way, in my mind, that the snake(s) should be held responsible for their actions and trialed before a judge for murder!

When humans think they can be exempt from the hands of the laws of nature, there's just something wrong there in my mind. Of course, this makes the affair no less sad but if the people who go up and do these things aren't comfortable, no matter how experienced they are, with the risk of death by chance, they shouldn't go. In my mind there are issues with experience tackling this walk, definitely, but there are also issues with people thinking that something or someone is just going to go ahead and bolt/protect everything... so much for national parks, with all the huts, braiding and damage there's only so much of it left before it's all ruined.

I'd rather they just close it off, rip up all the platforms, track works, gate the roads and let it just return to it's natural state if that's what it takes.
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Re: Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

Postby north-north-west » Mon 13 Jan, 2025 8:21 am

phATty:

Apologies, but I'm stuck in, pedant mode at the moment.
A great white couldn't swallow you whole, especially adding the scuba gear. They just aren't that big. Carcharodon megalodonis could possibly have done so, but they're (fortunately for us) extinct. We hope ...
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Re: Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

Postby Overlandman » Sun 26 Jan, 2025 8:05 pm

From Pulse Tasmania

#BREAKING: Two European tourists are in hospital tonight after falling from a cliff into the ocean on the Tasman Peninsula.

The pair were walking Mount Brown near Port Arthur when they veered off the track and fell into the water around 4pm.

A woman managed to swim back to shore and climb to safety with minor injuries, but a man in his 20s was swept 200 metres out to sea.

He was picked up by a Pennicott boat about 50 minutes later with suspected hypothermia and airlifted to hospital.

Police said the ending “could have been a lot worse” and thanked members of the public for their help.
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