Sydney bushfires

[geoskid]

Anyhow.. is this worth splitting into cause and effect? I was finding the local focus interesting on it's own, likely a hot topic in NSW over summer (pardon the pun).

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Err... no Nuts. It was never about cause and effect. It may be worth splitting it because some comments by climate science deniers (or someone who thought it might be fun to pretend to be a climate science denier) derailed the topic, and of course those comments had to be dealt with.
I would suggest spitting the thread along the lines of Sydney Bushfires vs all other unrelated BS and it's necessary refutation in the interest of sensible public discourse

[wildwalks]

If you are interested in a virtual walk of a couple of fire effected streets.
http://fire.wildwalks.com/

[Allchin09]

If you are interested in a virtual walk of a couple of fire effected streets.
http://fire.wildwalks.com/

Wow, that's an awesome idea!

[Rob Gosford]

Rob, can you point out where the propaganda is on that map or that link.
I can only see a summary of measured data and a pictorial representation of it.

Geoskid,
i would never have made a good polly mate

one thing i don't understand is, in 2012 the "no carbon tax under the Julia Gillard govt i lead" tax was introduced to INDUCE the Australian taxpayer to use LESS coal-fired electricity, in order to reduce the emissions of CO2, and hence stop the planet from overheating ? Well WHY in the BOM map on page 1 of this thread does it show that Australia's mean temperature from Oct 2012 to Sept 2013 has INCREASED ? When the whole idea of a Carbon Dioxide tax introduced in 2012 was to DECREASE the mean/average temperature ? The Carbon Dioxide tax hasn't worked has it ?

and i apologise for derailing OSM's thread with my comment on page 1 (if i did at all).......it wasn't intentional

regards. end of story......



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[GPSGuided]

Errr.... Has the discussion just crossed the politics divide? Govt policy has nothing to do with the science of climate change. Establish the facts, govt policies are set by politicians under pressure from interest groups. Often illogically.

[Toolybird]

Interesting video.

And possibly illegal:

http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?W ... =PC_101745

[photohiker]

one thing i don't understand is, in 2012 the "no carbon tax under the Julia Gillard govt i lead" tax was introduced to INDUCE the Australian taxpayer to use LESS coal-fired electricity, in order to reduce the emissions of CO2, and hence stop the planet from overheating ? Well WHY in the BOM map on page 1 of this thread does it show that Australia's mean temperature from Oct 2012 to Sept 2013 has INCREASED ? When the whole idea of a Carbon Dioxide tax introduced in 2012 was to DECREASE the mean/average temperature ? The Carbon Dioxide tax hasn't worked has it ?

Let's see.

Western civilisation has spent ~160 years dumping massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, and for some reason you suggest that one year of pulling back on the increase in CO2 emissions in one country will magically and immediately reduce the temperature?

As a species, we need to pull back our CO2 emissions for a long time just to slow the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere. There is no magic switch other than a global mind change to do something about it.

Yes, we need to reduce our carbon emissions, no it won't have an immediate effect.

[icefest]

It's like changing the thermostat and then complaining that it doesn't instantly change temperature.