Xplora wrote:It would be to its advantage to set up some glamping on that walk such as has been proposed for High Knob but we all know it is only a day walk there and back and in all the years people have been doing this they could not open a single lodge to accommodate tourists in the summer. Dinner Plain does a better job. To me this shows how self centered the resorts are. I think the resort managements will still have some trouble convincing the lodge owners they can make some money out of this by staying open.
north-north-west wrote:If they want to set up glamping there are areas within the resort zone that can be used. It's simply not appropriate for it to be done out on the Razorback, particularly somewhere like High Knob.
Lophophaps wrote: I was camped near Dibbins Hut a while ago and saw that the vast majority of tourists had inadequate gear. One party of 20 people went on to Dibbins, day trip from Hotham. They said that it did not look far on the map. I said that it's a climb getting back. Nothing in the news so they probably go back okay.
A. Parks Victoria’s initial analysis suggests that while the pole line may be acceptable for independent walkers, this route and the facilities do not meet the ‘world-class’ standard that the current Falls to Hotham Alpine Crossing project is aspiring to and which will allow it to compete with other iconic walks in Tasmania, New Zealand and overseas. Parks Victoria considers that including Mt Feathertop as part of the walking experience is crucial in meeting this benchmark.
Xplora wrote:So it seems the only 'iconic' thing about this walk is the Razorback and Feathertop and the rest is boring. Is this a silk purse/sows ear thing? ... if you wanted to develop an Iconic walk of international standard wouldn't the best mountain walk in Victoria be more appropriate? We could argue which one that would be but in my opinion it would not be this and maybe it is a good thing they do not want to do that. The point being that the better walks with better mountain views will not serve the commercial interests (resort).
Xplora wrote:More marketing spin aimed at those who do not know any better. Suck them in and take their money.
Xplora wrote:Much like the big white hunter who pays big to shoot a lion in a cage and takes home the trophy.
Xplora wrote:I am sure also, the greedy will not tell the client all about the climb up Diamantina or it will be done with the usual marketing spin. Think about how the guide will have to deal with things when see the view from Weston's Hut and the clients are told 'that is Mt. Feathertop' and all they can see it this BIG down and that HUGE up.
Lophophaps wrote: ................You will then be given a map along with a detailed explanation of the hike to Dibbins Hut. Once guests have departed, I'll drive to Mt Loch car park at Mount Hotham and walk the 9km's to meet you at Dibbins Hut. I'll be able to carry some creature comforts with me so expect some extra chocolate and other tasty treats to enjoy in the evening."
This is a really keen company!
The maps are again upside down. Dills.
neilmny wrote:Keen?..........so they leave their clients unguided and let them find there own way from place to place.........I wonder what they do in an emergency.........run into Dibbins Hut to meet them?????
Looks very dodgy to me. I've never heard of outdoor activity organisers not having staff to accompany their clients.
neilmny wrote:Keen?..........so they leave their clients unguided and let them find there own way from place to place.........I wonder what they do in an emergency.........run into Dibbins Hut to meet them?????
Looks very dodgy to me. I've never heard of outdoor activity organisers not having staff to accompany their clients.
photohiker wrote:neilmny wrote:Keen?..........so they leave their clients unguided and let them find there own way from place to place.........I wonder what they do in an emergency.........run into Dibbins Hut to meet them?????
Looks very dodgy to me. I've never heard of outdoor activity organisers not having staff to accompany their clients.
It's pretty clearly not a guided walk. $449 includes transport to/from Melbourne, a bunch of gear, portering in tents etc, meals and getting camp setup etc. I'd say that would be a bargain for a self-reliant experienced group. $2000 for a guide? I think I'd take the $450 job
neilmny wrote:photohiker wrote:neilmny wrote:Keen?..........so they leave their clients unguided and let them find there own way from place to place.........I wonder what they do in an emergency.........run into Dibbins Hut to meet them?????
Looks very dodgy to me. I've never heard of outdoor activity organisers not having staff to accompany their clients.
It's pretty clearly not a guided walk. $449 includes transport to/from Melbourne, a bunch of gear, portering in tents etc, meals and getting camp setup etc. I'd say that would be a bargain for a self-reliant experienced group. $2000 for a guide? I think I'd take the $450 job
A self reliant experienced group wouldn't need the guy in the first place, they'd just do there own thing.
north-north-west wrote:For $450 each I'd could load three people and their gear in my car, take us all over to the mainland on the ferry, drive up to Falls (or Hotham, depending on the direction we decide to walk), and lead them around the circuit with a sidetrip to Feathertop, and bring everyone back. Four easy days walking - five if we do an extra sidetrip out to the Fainters - all transport costs covered.
Xplora wrote: I think the smaller operation will have to change to survive if this project goes ahead but it would appeal to a number of people.
Strider wrote:NNW this would never work. You hate other people too much!
paidal_chalne_vala wrote:So what now? . When do we start the civil disobedience campaign ? .
stry wrote:Strider wrote:NNW this would never work. You hate other people too much!
It's not hate. NNW simply has commendably high standards, and a low tolerance of the demonstrably foolish.
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