After passing Tin Hut at a distance we made a poor tactical decision to angle up the hills (the watershed) to Gungarten Pass. The scrub was very heavy, and we did not enjoy that at all
potato wrote:Yep, here come the cyclists. Bike-packing has taken off as it provides easier access to remote areas. E-bikes will make bike-packing far more popular. While most stick to the designated management trails, there are a number who don't and will often ride, for example, the walking track between Thredbo and Kosci.
Zapruda wrote:potato wrote:Yep, here come the cyclists. Bike-packing has taken off as it provides easier access to remote areas. E-bikes will make bike-packing far more popular. While most stick to the designated management trails, there are a number who don't and will often ride, for example, the walking track between Thredbo and Kosci.
It certainly has become very popular, for better or worse... I say that as a long time bicycle tourer.
I was a bit shocked at the 30 strong group of bikepackers in Jagungal over Easter that was organised by a bike shop in Sydney.
rcaffin wrote:e-bikes? That is a motorised vehicle, and I doubt that they would be legal anywhere in the Park. And what do you do for batteries after the first few hours? Allow e-bikes and the next thing will be full trail bikes. No Thanks
nezumi wrote: As someone who has done some back-roads bikepacking but is yet to tackle any truly backcountry riding, I think that the two can co-exist. I don't think that the impact of a pedal bike in the bush is that much greater than foot traffic generally, and as long as general leave no trace principles are followed then there shouldn't be an issue.
The general guide to riding in the Jagungal from said bike shop has some great info, and good guidance. some of the key points they recommend:
*If you use the huts, support the KHA
*Know the legality of the track you are riding on
*Pack it in, pack it out
https://omafiets.com.au/pages/riding-in-the-jagungal
There are also a couple of organised not-races that pass through or around that area - the Monaro Cloudride and the Hunt 1000
nezumi wrote: I don't think that the impact of a pedal bike in the bush is that much greater than foot traffic generally, and as long as general leave no trace principles are followed then there shouldn't be an issue.
north-north-west wrote:nezumi wrote: I don't think that the impact of a pedal bike in the bush is that much greater than foot traffic generally, and as long as general leave no trace principles are followed then there shouldn't be an issue.
Simple logic and observation show that this is incorrect. A cyclist has their weight plus that of their gear and the bike, all concentrated on two narrow points (ie: over less surface area than their feet), while generally travelling faster than a walker. Regardless of the surface, this must have a greater impact in regard to erosion and vegetation damage.
Then, as Roger has pointed out, there is the issue of control on steep and rough tracks.
As long as cyclists keep to dedicated bike tracks or MVOs we can deal with their presence, but co-existence is often difficult and the brunt of avoiding injuries tends to fall on the walker due to lower speed and greater maneuverability.
puredingo wrote:I really don’t understand the grief this walk has copped. I’m definitely no spring chicken and my fitness has never been as good as could be....but I found it a doddle.
puredingo wrote:I really don’t understand the grief this walk has copped. I’m definitely no spring chicken and my fitness has never been as good as could be....but I found it a doddle.
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