Feeling tired/unwell a week after a hike

[wayno]

i think it was that bottle of gin you had....

[wayno]

people blame "'toxins" when thers little or no proof of it
you more likely be feeling unwell all along if you had toxins in your system
some medical teatments can do funny things with your metabolism, i've had acupuncture and homoeopathic treatments that absolutely wiped the floor with me for weeks. some practitioners just play with fire, i had a neck realignment from an ostepath that left me pretty spaced out for a while. well more spaced out than usual.....

[Onestepmore]

I hope you don't get a slack doctor who takes the easy way out and tells you to rest and take some vitamins. Get them to run some screening blood tests, vitamin levels, thyroid (T4) test, likey faecal culture esp as you were drinking untreated water (why?), and some viral tests for hepatitis etc, poss serology for Lyme disease etc. If they can take the easy way out they will. Go there informed and they are less likely to fob you off.
Like any profession, there are good ones who will go to extra effort, and lazy ones. (I am a veterinarian and am often surprised (dismayed) at how basic services and standards offered by some individuals are, when there is so much that can be done - the medicos (GP's) are the same)

And PS - I too thought you were 78 and 55 years of age!
PPS I do like Moondogs's advice, except I think the 2 hour planning session would be best in a hot bubbly spa with a bottle of wine

Well, if they came to me asking for a T4 with that story I would be refusing. Top of my list of suspects given the temporal relationship to the walk would be infective followed by toxic (something in the water or food - heavy metals, pesticides/herbicides, etc)

T4 due to associations with depressive symptoms, lethargy, chronic fatigue. This isn't somethnng that is going to be due to the walk itself, but a prior condition. Unlkely to affect two people simultaneously (ie simply a concidence if both are low), and not causative of the whoe gamut of symptoms but possibly contributary. I agree infective or toxic most likey (if we're using the whoe DAMNIT principle of diagnosis etc)

[biggbird]

^I understand you want people to be fully investigated, but I'd have to agree with Matagi, I wouldn't be jumping at every test possible straight away with that sort of history. Doctors are now taught not to over-investigate where possible, as it's expensive and rarely very useful.

But enough of me on my high horse hope you guys are feeling better! As others have mentioned, parasites/water borne illness is certainly possible, but you could also just be plumb worn out. Fingers crossed whatever it is resolves itself soon

[Earthling]

How the results go Rich? Be good to hear.
Im with Moondog on this one, its more than likely just the after walk blues. Body metabolism is going to get wacked around a bit too going from low activity to high activity during walk and then back to low activity again sitting behind a desk...all sorts of things will be going on.
Also supplements are only of use if your diet is not healthy. Have a good diet and unless you have some condition supplements are useless and a HUGE waste of money.
On a side note, did you know the regulation on supplements is so bad in this country that I can sell 'Snake Oil Cureall' made from some nontoxic random whatever legally? And not have ANY proof that it works...sucks...

[rich]

Hi team,
no results yet, I'm booked in this afternoon. The receptionist was funny and refused to tell me over the phone if the results were even available. I asked if she was wanting me to book a consultation to see if the results were available, so that I could arrange another consultation later in the week to review the results. Silence on the other end. On the plus side I've been feeling better since the weekend, and putting into effect a few of the suggestions here, I'm also regularly exercising again at crossfit (couldnt even stomach the idea upon returning) and the appetite is nearly back in full swing. GF appears to be ok, but is still sleeping a bit more than normal, which is normal for her I'll keep you posted, with hopefully nothing that is too dramatic,

Rich

[wayno]

i watched an article an cyclists in the tour de france,,,
in teh tour which is three weeks long they get a day off at the end of the first and second week.
now on the day off, believe it or not, they must still exercise , they ususally go out for an easy relatively flat two hour cycle .... this is supposed to be because if they dont exercise that day their bodies can take advantage of the break from exercising and slow right down and its a lot harder for them to get going again and get back into their normal race pace when the tour resumes the following day....

[corvus]

wayno I think this may have been mentioned before (what is teh some Kiwi speak ? ) t, e and h are not even close on my keyboard!!
corvus

[matagi]

wayno I think this may have been mentioned before (what is teh some Kiwi speak ? ) t, e and h are not even close on my keyboard!!
corvus

It's a common typo - usually the result of rapid touch typing and you get your finger sequences out of sync. I do it quite often but usually notice and correct it.

[corvus]

matagi
which fingers do you get out of touch?
corvus

[matagi]

matagi
which fingers do you get out of touch?
corvus

Well as you know, when touch typing you use your left index finger to hit the "t", right index finger to hit the "h" and left middle finger to hit the "e". If you're going for speed then your fingers will be poised over the keys to strike and I think the fact that the "t" and "e" are hit by adjacent fingers of the same hand means you sometimes get a reflex twitch of the middle finger after hitting the "t" which means you hit the "e" before your left index finger has time to hit the "h".

All I know is it happens when you're going for speed but it doesn't happen consistently. For example, I have typed "the" several time is this reply without getting out of sync.

[Hallu]

It's so common it's become a word in l33t language : t3h.

[rich]

Hi folks, nothing serious to report. Tests only flagged slightly elevated levels in the liver (ALT&AST?) which Dr said could be a range of things from virus to food reaction, but probably self limiting. Also said going by current symptoms it's probably already gone but to monitor it. Gf's results are tomorrow, I'll sing out if there's anything of interest.

Rich

[matagi]

Good news about the results. Sounds like you're getting better too which is also good.

Viruses are evil little sods.