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Thu 07 Nov, 2024 1:50 pm
Forgive if this has been discussed previously.
Would like to know what people use to carry out their rubbish in. Is it in an old dry sack with say a shopping bag as a liner?
We don't have a lot of rubbish as we usually do our own dehydrated meal in zip lock bags (that we re use a number of times) so can't use an empty commercial dehydrated meal pouch.
Would be less than 1 litre volume after 4-5 days usually nut bar/chocolate rappers, coffee grounds & used tea leaves etc .
Thu 07 Nov, 2024 2:28 pm
Not even a dry pack; just a doubled up shopping bag. Although I do leave my loose tea leaves behind when i drink loose tea, they biodegrade very quickly
Thu 07 Nov, 2024 8:53 pm
Large sealable sandwich bag does the trick
Fri 08 Nov, 2024 12:24 am
Lostsoul wrote:Large sealable sandwich bag does the trick
2-5 days/person. I package my food in large ziplocks for each day, so day 1 ziplock becomes the garbage bag for the rest of the trip
Fri 08 Nov, 2024 6:53 am
Lostsoul wrote:Large sealable sandwich bag does the trick
Same. Has to be one of the good quality ones as I've had cheap ones split.
Fri 08 Nov, 2024 7:33 am
Old mountain bread sealable bag. It's large enough for long trips, robust enough to last multiple trips, and the seal keeps the smells away from the things that might otherwise be attracted.
Fri 08 Nov, 2024 12:26 pm
Lostsoul wrote:Large sealable sandwich bag does the trick
Likewise.
Also, if you use commercial dehydrated food (eg Strive) use the bag they come in.
Fri 08 Nov, 2024 1:20 pm
I use an old drybag that's seen better days (not sure of its capacity, it's an old Kathmandu one, maybe 5 litres). I line it with a small tidy bag.
Fri 08 Nov, 2024 7:18 pm
Where is all the rubbish coming from??
On a recent 4 day trip, all of my rubbish easily fitted into two small zip lock bags. I use a zip lock to store my night meal (plus, separately, carbs like raman noodles). So, after the 1st night I have my rubbish bag for the trip. As well, I'll usually fit in any extra bits (like closed-cell foam) I find along the way.
As for coffee grounds, these are actually good for the soil. We drink a lot of coffee and put the used grounds in the worm farm, compost bit and directly into the vege beds & our native garden. I'd read that coffee was not good for worms but ours love it. I even tested unused freshly ground coffee beans just to see ... and they loved that too! As for tea, no need to carry out leaf (but tea bags are nylon) - vegetative matter that is not a problem in the environment.
(Above comments refer to the general Australian bush - highly sensitive areas can be a different proposition)
Sat 09 Nov, 2024 7:21 am
bernieq wrote:Where is all the rubbish coming from??
Some degree of packaging helps to keep the smell of food from the things that will try to get at any food they can smell. I use soup sachets to help give the evening mess a bit of flavour - results in rubbish. A pack of
dang myeon lasts two nights but then there's a bit more rubbish. Cous cous or instant mash is great to add a bit of bulk; more rubbish. It depends on what you eat and how long you're out there. Chocolate or nuts or whatever snack food from during the day = more rubbish. Some things can be repackaged at home into reusable containers, but sometimes that's more trouble than it's worth. Bandaids, other peoples' garbage (there's a lot of that on many tracks) including far too many shreads of foam ...
Sat 09 Nov, 2024 12:09 pm
north-north-west wrote:It depends on what you eat and how long you're out there.
Quite. I was really expressing surprise at the size of the rubbish bags being referenced; mountain bread bag, shopping bag, dry bag. I guess I'm gently suggesting that, if a shopping bag is needed for one's rubbish, reducing it also might be a good thing to consider.
north-north-west wrote:including far too many shreads of foam ...
This is a pet hate of mine - I even grizzled to the Wild editor about photos showing walkers with foam mats strapped to the outside of their packs. Put the foam mats in a bag!
I was really annoyed on a recent trip into the Budawangs. Some 'thoughtful' person had wrapped stick-on' fluoro tape around branches & on rocks along the only, and very obvious, track into Monolith Valley (and in & around Cooyoyo camp). I collected what I could.
(sorry, end of rant - not wanting to hijack the thread)
Mon 11 Nov, 2024 5:22 pm
Most of our food is packaged in light PE bags - like the ~A4 fruit bags you get in some shops. One bag per day (eg, rice, muesli, etc), and all one sort in a UL silnylon stuff sack - a few grams. The empties are stored in the same stuff sack, with the 'full' bags. BTW, that makes our food packaging fairly waterproof as well.
Any rubbish (eg instant soup packets) is compressed and stuffed into - yes, another silnylon stuff sack, about 150 x 120 mm. That is usually good for a week or two.
Used tea leaves and coffee grounds are thoroughly organic and are spread out.
UL does not cover just large gear, but also food packaging.
My 2c
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