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Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 9:13 am
by doogs

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 9:36 am
by Lindsay
Is this the same incident referred to in the post by Fat Canyoner in the hunting in national parks thread? http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/new ... y/1912812/

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 10:07 am
by doogs
yup I guess so!!

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 10:53 am
by Giddy_up
It is a very worrying event, I walk in and around national parks here on the Sunshine Coast and there are a lot of deer around. We frequently see them when moving through the bush and its always in the back of my mind, is there someone with a gun nearby as i know they are highly sought after. They are always near very heavy cover and adjacent to a clearing so any movement out into the open could easily be mistaken as a target. Might have to attach some hi-vis fabric to my pack after this.


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Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 11:02 am
by Strider
I don't think hi-vis fabric will protect you from drug growers Giddy_up...

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 11:19 am
by Giddy_up
Strider wrote:I don't think hi-vis fabric will protect you from drug growers Giddy_up...


No your quite right, but it sounds like it could have been a pig hunter as well, but I guess if they are crazy enough and have a gun you've got no chance.


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Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 12:29 pm
by puredingo
I doubt this had anything to do with hunting at all. It sounds like a grower protecting his crop with very dangerous intent.

The low calibre slug would be a .22 or thereabouts which would not be a deer/pig hunters choice of ammo.

I've often wondered if one day this will be my fate as I stumble across these plantation once in awhile, luckily so far nobody's been at home....Although I've always had the feeling I'm being observed from a distance.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 12:34 pm
by wayno
its not uncommon for drug growers in NZ to threaten people they come across near their crop. some of the growers are total paranoids, booby tramping their crop with nasty devices, they just assume anyone in the area is there to find their crop....
i read about one incident, some mountain bikers had to do some fast talking to avoid a nasty incident with armed growers...
years ago a couple of people disappeared and one theory was they stumbled apon a crop in the coronamdel, never proven though, it was a one off, they found at least one of the bodies, murdered.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 12:42 pm
by wayno
this article makes a link between cannabis growers and the shooting

http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/new ... g/1916638/

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 1:19 pm
by Giddy_up
Later, the man discovered that he had been shot, with what police now believe to be a small calibre firearm similar to a .22 rifle.

Later!!!!!!!!!! I would have though that if you were shot you would know.


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Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 1:24 pm
by wayno
may have been a silencer on the gun. for whatever reason, he didnt notice anything when he was hit...
thing is though 22 ammunition is lead... if it was hollow point i'd expect him to know about it, it would do a reasonable amount of damage , or maybe the bullet went through his pack or ricocheted of something befor hitting him....

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 2:13 pm
by puredingo
Giddy_up wrote:Later, the man discovered that he had been shot, with what police now believe to be a small calibre firearm similar to a .22 rifle.

Later!!!!!!!!!! I would have though that if you were shot you would know.


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Not if your Chuck Norris.....

I don't know the full story but if the bloke was being chased through the scrub and the adrenalin was pumping then maybe he wouldn't notice the gun shot at the time BUT if you were sitting at home watching the Sunday footy and somebody shot you with a slug gun much less a .22, then yes, you definitely notice it!

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 6:19 pm
by Strider
wayno wrote:maybe the bullet went through his pack

Wouldn't it then say "shot in the back", not "shot in the stomach"? Just a thought.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 6:34 pm
by wayno
maybe he had an aarn pack :P

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sat 22 Jun, 2013 6:46 pm
by Strider
wayno wrote:maybe he had an aarn pack :P

You did well to think of this comeback in just 15 minutes! :P

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Sun 23 Jun, 2013 7:22 am
by ILUVSWTAS
wayno wrote:maybe he had an aarn pack :P



Might also explain why he was attacked. Ridiculous looking things.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 12:40 am
by tas-man
I was shot at on a BBW trip I was leading back in the 1970's - I posted the story here a few years ago as a warning about dealing with "senior citizen" bush landowners! viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6320#p87786

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 8:20 am
by matagi
Where we used to live in rural NSW, we were surrounded by state forest and it was a well known fact amongst the locals that certain "alternative" agricultural activities were occurring in the forest. It was also well known that if you happened upon such a site whilst rambling through the bush, you got the hell out of Dodge ASAP or you would most definitely be shot.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 8:21 am
by matagi
ILUVSWTAS wrote:
wayno wrote:maybe he had an aarn pack :P



Might also explain why he was attacked. Ridiculous looking things.

They may be ridiculous looking, but they work!

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 8:25 am
by wayno
in NZ the police have a unit that go into such "alternative agricultural patches" they are basically trained and equipped as if they are in the army, involved in jungle warfare.... one group actually bumped right into the growers who were armed to the teeth, they feigned being the army on exercise and kept moving.... then came back and ambushed the growers without a shot being fired.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 10:17 am
by Hallu
If you're a grower, you've got to be stupid to grow it in a National Park though... It's patrolled regularly by rangers and bushwalkers who go off-track.

Re: Bushwalker shot

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 1:05 pm
by Ent
A Tasmanian police officer was almost killed by a shotgun trap setup by a drug grower. He largely recovered and headed up a search and rescue section.

Sadly no law will not protect you from criminals. It is illegal to take drugs and drive yet the paper is littered with people doing this and the damage that they do.

The simple fact is you are more endangered driving to and from a walk than the walk itself.

The only thing you can hope for is Darwinian principle holds on criminals and they remove their genes from humanity like the idiots that were drying explosives they had stolen out in their oven a couple streets away from my patents house.

Regards