WTB 65-75 Litre small sized robust backpack

[jackattack]

I am fiscally challenged at the moment but wanting to go on overnight and maybe multi day hikes. My tent and sleeping bag are both bulky and my poor 65 L macpac Torlesse pack is not really rated for the 15kgs (baseweight of 11 kilos) i on average haul. Last overnight trip I did I lugged 17 kilos, twas a bit hard on my hips. Getting a lighter sleeping bag and a lighter tent is not an option, and I love my MSR Elixir II, even if its heavy, its roomy and well can not afford a lighter tent, but it takes up 2 /3rds of my pack!

So does anybody have a pack sitting in the gear closet that needs a new home where it will get to go on adventures, be loved and used. Ideally less than $150.00. I am chunky but short at 163.5cm,not picky on brand, looks, weight or age just needs to be safe, robust and able to haul up to 20 kilos so a decent hip belt is a must - this is where the Torlesse fails me a bit. Holiak hire is not an option unless somebody volunteers to go and inspect for me, I am not keen to get another used pack from them, as they have already seen a heap of action and a waste of money unless inspected before purchase.

So i am putting this request out there with my fingers crossed!

Thankyou in advance

Jack

[jdeks]

Well, probably not the answer you were hoping for, but I dont think you're going to have much luck.

The torlesse is full frame 65L pack with a proper, full size, adjustable hip belt. Although not published on the MacPac site, that size of pack are generally rated *well* above 15kg . My old Aether 60 was rated to about 25k, I carry 15 in a 40L pack regularly. If youre having discomfort at 17kg, it's not because the pack is underrated for the load.

If I remember from your previous posts, you're 40-ish, losing weight and been hiking casually about 1 year or so? In which case, hauling around 17kg is going to give you sore hips in ANY pack, especially if you're unconditioned (I know I do). Fitment may be an issue depending on your waist/hip/shoulder measurement. But honestly, for $150, you're just going to get another (quite secondhand) variant on the same theme. You could go blow $500 on an 85L pack and it will still functionally place that 17kg (plus the weight of a bigger pack) on the same part of your body. At the end of the day that weight has to press somewhere.

IMO, the issue here is your 11kg baseweight. That's nuts. Properly mondo. I dont even hit that baseweight with snow gear and a DLSR. If you want to take pressure off your hips, the most direct way to do this is .....to take pressure off your hips. Carry less stuff.

If you like, make a "gear list" thread and start having an honest, brutal look at all the stuff you carry. Costs $0, immediately makes hiking much more comfortable. Save the $150 for the 'new sleeping bag' kitty.

[Moondog55]

I have to agree with the above; sore hips are a part of the toughening up regime we all go though at times.
11kilo base weight [FSO] isn't too bad IMO if you are after sleeping comfort not covered distance although loads lower than this are much more comfortable to carry.
My winter load out is closer to 22kilos tho but my storm worthy 2P tent is 5.6 kilo of that once you add in the extra snow stakes, deadmen and such

[jackattack]

Hey Jdeks,

I had not thought of hip pain as part of the hiking toughening up process. Good point.


"The torlesse is full frame 65L pack with a proper, full size, adjustable hip belt. Although not published on the MacPac site, that size of pack are generally rated *well* above 15kg ."

Manager at my local Macpac mentioned the torlesse is a pack for lighter loads and 15kg may be a bit too much. I get 11-12kg for my base weight plus 3 kg of water. I take 6 litres of water on over night walks where there is no promise of water on first night. I am walking next week, not in the mood pre walk to post my gear list but will after with a list of what I too v what I actually used. Am a bit nervous about this but it will force me to be brutal with what I take.

[jdeks]

Manager at my local Macpac mentioned the torlesse is a pack for lighter loads and 15kg may be a bit too much.

There's hip pain, and there's hip pain. Deep-tissue tendon/muscle soreness is a posture and stride issue, superficial bruising is a conditioning, fitment and pack weight probem. Neither of these will likely change with a new pack.

Manager at your local MacPac is in the business of getting you to buy another MacPac. You come in saying "I think I need a new pack", they're not going to argue with you.

Lots of reference to 20kg being fine for the Torelesse

https://translate.google.de/translate?h ... rev=search
http://www.livefortheoutdoors.com/gear- ... orlesse-65
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=512341

Check out that last thread. They're looking at using it (and other ~60L packs) for 20-30kg loads of climbing gear. Admittedly that's pushing it, but making a pack with 65L of volume that can only carry 15kg doesn't make sense. Did this manager explain why it's not suitable for 15kg+, considering it's got all the right features?

Personally, I'd look at culling superflous gear before lugging it around needlessly all weekend.

[Neo]

Can you strap your tent or bag-in-a-drysac to the bottom of your pack? That should give you plenty of room inside.
IMO a pack over 60L is huge for summer... Start saving and before you know it you can upgrade the tent or bag!

[Neo]

Oh yeah ive also suffered at 17kg even with plenty of pre-walking practice. Im now down to 8kg so next time should only have to haul about 12kg so am hoping thats my sweet spot and can get stronger from there.