Coxs River Trout Fishing.

[flyfisher]

Was'nt the subject about the Cox's river?(NSW,Australia)

Might I sugest flylife forum or any other fishing forum of your choice.

Back to bushwalking perhaps.

FF

[Size 11]

Was'nt the subject about the Cox's river?(NSW,Australia)

Might I sugest flylife forum or any other fishing forum of your choice.

Back to bushwalking perhaps.

FF

You might.
Bushwalking is readily available along the Cox's River.

[dominicleckie]

Sailfish - parts of the Coxs and Wollondilly are not classified trout streams and, as such, are open to fishing during the winter breeding. I'd need to check that the boundaries are classified. It should be obvious that it is best left to replenish stocks and just taking in the best conditions when you can enjoy food and capture.

[John Sheridan]

Do you think it would be possible to kayak down the coxs river, just a thought going though my head, I think it would be fun, end up at lake Burrendong, not sure where to get a taxi from there to a train station or bus station


Kayak a bit set camp for the night and do some fishing and next day set out again for a bit, set camp, maybe I am the only one who thinks its fun.

I was thinking of using an inflatable kayak, only about 8 kgs, but I would get a taxi to my starting point of lake lyell

Cheers.

[climberman]

Not really John. It's pretty slow below Lyell, and not overly suited to the kayak. You'd probably need to do it in flood, which reduces the fishability (and predictability) somewhat.

It's also illegal to be within a 3k buffer of the lake (barring a walkers' route for Katoomba to Mittagong). This SCA 'special area' is marked on most maps produced in the last 10 years.

If you did ignore that though, you could portage around the dam and get out at Penrith.

[John Sheridan]

Just did a google maps of the river and I don't see much water, but I see many many rocks


I think it would be a hoot to kayak down the river, it just needs some more water, don't mind getting out from time to time to get over some rocks, if that pisses me off too much Ill just set up camp and do some camping and relax for a bit.

The fishing probably would not be possible in a flood, but would still probably try.


Cheers.

[Bronski]

This topic reminded me of a recent movie....Eastern Rises
http://vimeo.com/3074182
Anyone been there? Seen the movie?

[climberman]

Bronski - yes, I have a copy of Eastern Rises. They use packrafts in it for a section, exactly the same model as mine.

[WarrenH]

Where in the Snowies would be a good place to fish for trout I want the NON spawning big ones if you don't mind, I would like to keep some to cook, you guys seem to think the ones in the snowies are tasty

Could I suggest that you go into a fishing store and pick a free copy of NSW Dept of Industry and Investments, NSW Recreational FRESHWATER Fishing Guide 2011 (or 2012 if it is out), if you don't have a copy. There is a lot of essential info about major fishing closures, trout waters, and everything else that will keep the Federalies off you back. In the Northern Alps (around the ACT) you need to check the ACT Government TAMS website for closures. There are several good spots that have been closed here in the ACT, most likely because of extensions being done to Cotter Dam.

Where to start in the Snowies? Start on the Northern Frost Plains of Kosci. At Yaouk and on the Murrumbidgee and Caves Creek at the Blue Water Holes or work your way down along the Bicentennial National Trail to somewhere like Big Tolbar Creek. There are no shortages of fish in the streams in the little visited places. You can stand and watch them.

In the last week there has been a sewerage spill at Perisher from a broken pipe that will make its way (after Island Bend) through the tunnel to Jindabyne. The authorities are saying it is an acceptable spill ... OK!

Any of the streams that flow into and are close to the Murrumbidgee are good. I use red and gold Celta #2 lures and green and yellow Celta #3 frog lures, in places like Caves Creek and the Murrumbidgee and at Yaouk. Bradleys Creek, Yaouk Creek and Old Yaouk Creek flies do best. I'm not a fly fisherman because I have OK success with the spinners/lures(best around sunrise and sunset). In the smaller reedy streams that flow into the Murrumbidgee, watch out for Tiger Snakes. In the tighter meandering streams use flies. If you don't have a fly rod and line, use a trace between the line and the fly so you don't have to have special gear. At the moment you need to sink the fly deeper and work hard to catch anything around Eucumbene. If you chat to the guys in the fishing stores, they know what insects need imitating for the seasons, consistent with what they stock.

At a place like the Alpine Caravan Park at Adaminaby, Lars the owner, sells excellent large flies for the dryer times, perfect for this region, for both streams and lake. A card with a dozen flies is only $12. Or $6 for half a dozen. Check out their photo gallery ... http://www.alpinetouristpark.com.au/photo-gallery.php

Eucumbene is at 44% capacity and still filling. Much different to the last few years, when the bigger drier flies were working and the lake looked like a clay pan. The Tolbar Trail on the Low Water Route across Eucumbene is flooded. There is a high water route which is the best Tolbar route if you are on foot. The streams that feed Eucumbene like the Eucumbene River, Big Tolbar Creek, Tabletop Creek, Swampy Creek and Hughes are all flowing well. If you are going fishing from the October long weekend on you will need to stock up on the flies that suit the season. You can do that in Adaminaby.

On the October long weekend the roads reopen around Tantangra Dam (and else where) if the weather is good and the dirt tracks reasonably dry. If conditions are muddy the roads will remain closed. Off Tantangra Road there is Gang Gang Creek. Near Dennison where the Tolbar Trail High Water Route crosses Eucumbene River, Alpine Creek flows into the lake.

If you are wondering about a rod to go walking with, I have a telescopic fishing rod that collapses to 40cm, it is small, I forget that I have it.

The Murrumbidgee at Yaouk. Tiger Snake country.




Behind the Yaouk Travelling Stock Reserve ... nice. It looks like private property but is crown land.




Caves Creek. Walk towards the waterfall. In Clarke Gorge, fish above or below the falls. I've seen Tiger snakes sunning themselves on top of the Pimelea bushes in Clarke Gorge ... a metre off the ground.




There are some deep dark pools on the Naas River north of the confluence with Second Hand Creek. No one goes there. Lots of snakes. The water is very cold ... perhaps this enhances the flavour.




Warren.

[John Sheridan]

I just got my Telescopic Abu Garcia 6'6 rod and its rated to 3-4kg all I need is a reel for it can someone recommend a reel for it and I assume the line should be 4 kg for the reel, not sure what kind of line though, will probably be used for trout, but will use it for rivers as well as streams.

I would think I would need a spinning reel and I have seen reels with the drag knob at the back, that looks like something I would like. though as long as it has a drag knob anywhere that would be good.




Cheers for any help.

[sailfish]

John,

While there is a crossover between walking ond other activites (like fishing) people do on walks, you might do better asking tackle related questions on a fishing forum like: http://www.tacklebox.com.au/forums/forum.php

Regards,
Ken

[DaveB]

John,
I personally think rear drags suck-Abu Sorons are terrific value for money,you'd want an SX10 or20- check out Ebay.I'd put a 3kg braid like fireline on it .http://www.fishraider.com.au/Invision/i ... howforum=2 has a lot on fishing the Cox and surrounds,a few of the guys are bushwalkers and do regular expeditions into the area.
Cheers,
Dave.

[John Sheridan]

Is this the Fireline your talking about ?

http://www.bigw.com.au/sports-leisure/f ... shing-line

Seems big W only have the 8 lb line, 3.6kg, that should be close enough

Now All I need is the reel.

Cheers.

[DaveB]

That'll do fine John-you need leader material too,fluorocarbon is best,there are plenty to choose from.Post a question on Fishraider about trout fishing Cox's and you'll get plenty of help.
Dave.

[John Sheridan]

The SX 10 seems to be the one I want, it's only 220 grams, but costs 158 from Big W, seems to be the cheapest I can find in Australia.

220 grams is as light as you can get a reel right, not sure if you can go much lighter, though I am no expert

Cheers.

[sailfish]

My fly reel is 70g, the whole 3wt outfit (rod, reel, backing, line, leader) is 196g.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16440739@N05/5427871928
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16440739@N05/6285427437

Regards,
Ken

[John Sheridan]

My total with that real and my rod with be 390 grams, not including line

I guess I can buy one of those Pen Fishing rods I think they would be lighter than yours even :p

Mine will do for now, my gear is light already.

Cheers.

[Tony]

I have been using a Tenkara fly rod for a few years now with great success, my heavy tenkara weighs (a Yamame) in at 102g, my lightest is around 75g.

My whole kit with Tenkara rod, flies, floatant, spare tippet, forcepts, lambs wool pad and line snips is only around 250g.

Tony

[sailfish]

I have been using a Tenkara fly rod for a few years now with great success, my heavy tenkara weighs (a Yamame) in at 102g, my lightest is around 75g.

My whole kit with Tenkara rod, flies, floatant, spare tippet, forcepts, lambs wool pad and line snips is only around 250g.

Tony

Wonderful!
The weight surprises me for a boo rod outfit, what DT line weight is the outfit rated for and how long is the rod?
Can you effectively nymph fast water with it or are you restricted to dry fly?
Are you doing the full traditional boo and silk line thing?

Regards,
Ken

[Tony]

Wonderful!
The weight surprises me for a boo rod outfit, what DT line weight is the outfit rated for and how long is the rod?
Can you effectively nymph fast water with it or are you restricted to dry fly?
Are you doing the full traditional boo and silk line thing?

Regards,
Ken

Hi Ken,

I found the Traditional Tenkara line that came with my rod was hard to use, it felt like it had no power, I now use my Tenkara's with some traditional western line, (I think it is 4 weight), I feel this makes it a bit easier especially if there is any wind, for the tippet I just use some 2kg line of about 2 meters length, easy and simple.

I usually start the day with a nymph, I tie on a large dry to use as an indicator then a nymph with about 300-400 mm of line, I find this combination works a treat, I have tried longer lengths but find it can be difficult to cast properly with the Tenkara if the nymph line is too long, as the day warms I drop the nymph and just fish with the dry.

While I still use my no 4 rod on larger rivers I really enjoy a days fishing with my Tenkara, it is easy simple fishing.

I have posted some my trip write ups on my blog you also might be interested in this post

Tony

[John Sheridan]

What type and size of hooks and sinkers would I used in the Georges river, also sinkers ???


Some help on choosing bait and or lures would be nice, I want to do some fishing, got my rod and reel and line, just need the other bits

Cheers if you can help.


/PS From what I read their are no HUGE fish in the georges river, so a 4.5 kg line should be fine right ?

[sailfish]

John,
You need to rig for specific target species but also fish as light as the conditions will allow.
I suggest you try to find out which fish species are in the river when you can fish it.
Things change seasonally.
Then get a book like "How to catch 100 fish", something that outlines the rigs specific to each species.
Some of the older guides on this are best but can be a little optimistic as fish are generally smaller now due to adverse pressures on the fishery.

Mostly, line weight and hook size, are determined by the target species, sinkers by the strength or current or distance you need to cast.
You have to stay within the limits of your rod and reel too.

Ken

[troutboy]

Gday all, first time poster so go easy on me..

I have fishd the cox's for several years now,at first at legally accessed spots and found the fishing very tough due to angling pressure and limited catch and release, still fish to 4lbs were caught but demanded extreme stealth and accurate casting.After a while I decided to approach some local farmers and now have private access to approximately 4km of private river frontage and have caught browns to 6lbs and rainbows to around 5lbs.I do not advise fishing private property without permission as a few landowners can get quite nasty if they find you on their land. The area around bowtels bridge has some deep pools that produce good rainbows for persistant anglers and walking up or downstream from here will reward you with some lovely fish.Also carp have populated the area and love a bit of bread dipped in canola oil.Dont leave your rod unattended with a tight drag setting as some of the carp are quite sizable and will take your rod in no time.I have caught carp under bowtels bridge to 7kg.If you do catch a carp please dong it on the head and bury far away from the water.The campground at Glenroy on the Jenolan Caves rd is a good starting point for access.

cheers troutboy

[ceartas]

A lot of nonsense is spoken of when discussing 'smoked salmon'. A great friend of mine - a true chef (not a TV wannabe) assures me that not even a 'gourmet' can tell the difference between genuine smoked salmon - and a thinly sliced 'kipper' (smoked herring). A regular catering scam (a way of boosting the bill) is to serve a side of salmon covered in kipper 'flakes' and the whole charged as 'smoked salmon' - bringing some 260pc profit.
Don't believe me ? Then try serving thinly sliced kipper as smoked salmon - and see who can spot the difference.

[Strider]

A regular catering scam (a way of boosting the bill) is to serve a side of salmon covered in kipper 'flakes' and the whole charged as 'smoked salmon' - bringing some 260pc profit.

This makes no sense. Regardless of which fish is actually smoked, the cost of smoking is the same.

[neilmny]

A lot of nonsense is spoken of when discussing 'smoked salmon'. A great friend of mine - a true chef (not a TV wannabe) assures me that not even a 'gourmet' can tell the difference between genuine smoked salmon - and a thinly sliced 'kipper' (smoked herring). A regular catering scam (a way of boosting the bill) is to serve a side of salmon covered in kipper 'flakes' and the whole charged as 'smoked salmon' - bringing some 260pc profit..

So this "true chef" is a crook is he??????? Not sure what the message is here