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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby geoskid » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 10:00 pm

Myself wrote:Geez you sound pretty keen to get me there :)

Sad thing is that's the best lead I've currently got. Like, the Blue Mountains is just a few more gear items off, and she knows that, so just when I'm almost ready to live the dream, she *&%$#! me, just so she can *&%$#! this crumpled little man.


Yeah sounds easy, and it would be physically, but you hav'nt been on the recieving end of my probing questions in my quest to understand human beings from an atheist perspective (and I do understand that this is what causes much internal turmoil)- you may well wish you had stayed where you are :) Just Joking - but everything is up for discussion in my house.
Offers there, anyone is welcome, always.

The other thing is, there are real opportunities here in Tassie (look further up the thread) for people that want a more intimate relationship with nature in their everyday life.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 10:19 pm

Anyway, that means two things. I'll be homeless if I don't find a way to get the last few items quixkly, and I'm free to find a new woman, once I've settled back in somewhere.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby geoskid » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 10:40 pm

Myself wrote:Anyway, that means two things. I'll be homeless if I don't find a way to get the last few items quixkly, and I'm free to find a new woman, once I've settled back in somewhere.


Myself, you are going to be homeless for a little while - use it to think.
Focus on the 'once i've settled back in somewhere' and what a 'new woman' might be looking for in a man.
Take the time , enjoy the freedom, but plan your way back.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 11:14 pm

I could always get the stove and filter here, then go out as is and go into town for a warm jacket when I'm there.

I'm not Athiest, I'm Agnostic ;) Organized religion is for the lazy-minded, I reakon, and the basic code of morality contained within the holy books is not religion-dependant: most decent people are raised with a basic sense of right and wrong, religeous upbringing or not :)
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 11:20 pm

geoskid wrote:
Myself wrote:Anyway, that means two things. I'll be homeless if I don't find a way to get the last few items quixkly, and I'm free to find a new woman, once I've settled back in somewhere.


Myself, you are going to be homeless for a little while - use it to think.
Focus on the 'once i've settled back in somewhere' and what a 'new woman' might be looking for in a man.
Take the time , enjoy the freedom, but plan your way back.


The woman to, was never compatible, by the by: she's a Slobby Sagattarius, I'm a Fussy Virgo, she's older, I'm.. Not. She's a corporate power-media woman, I detest marketing and media spin, they're just *&^%$#! factories. There are a plethora of other opposing factors, but no matter how you rub it if you're with someone three years - for better or worse - you deserve more than being shoved aside in one week for her next fling.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 11:23 pm

The upside is I needn't feel any hesitation in looking forward to other women, and the replacement - like I said a subservient wallflower - looks like a stiff breeze would put him on his *&%$#!.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 11:28 pm

Which reminds me of the most prominent clash: Her constantly wanting to dominate. I like women who are manifestly female, not control-freaks, cos *I* am a control freak too, so she wouldn't let me, and there's no way in hell I'd ever let her be dominant, everything else sloughed-out of that.

Anyway, she's got a crumpled little pissant to agree with everything she says and skulk around after her like a dog, so they're probably a good match ;)
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby geoskid » Wed 30 Apr, 2014 11:51 pm

Myself wrote:
geoskid wrote:
Myself wrote:Anyway, that means two things. I'll be homeless if I don't find a way to get the last few items quixkly, and I'm free to find a new woman, once I've settled back in somewhere.


Myself, you are going to be homeless for a little while - use it to think.
Focus on the 'once i've settled back in somewhere' and what a 'new woman' might be looking for in a man.
Take the time , enjoy the freedom, but plan your way back.


The woman to, was never compatible, by the by: she's a Slobby Sagattarius, I'm a Fussy Virgo, she's older, I'm.. Not. She's a corporate power-media woman, I detest marketing and media spin, they're just *&^%$#! factories. There are a plethora of other opposing factors, but no matter how you rub it if you're with someone three years - for better or worse - you deserve more than being shoved aside in one week for her next fling.


Yeah , I'm not at all into star signs - I mean, how can you divide the worlds population into 12 categories andfind something in each category every morning that you can shoe -horn to suit you.
So, myself, is there more to it - the strong words about the woman that is kicking you out. Yeah, I know effeminate men, but not concerned about them.
I think you are doing the right thing getting some space on your own. Just space.
So , what do you need to do to make that happen quickly. Can You lob at your mums place early and finish preparations there?
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Thu 01 May, 2014 1:34 am

Starsigns are actually a relatively accurate "general" persona-type marker. To claim everyone is one of twelve signs is foolish of course, but there's more tsn just the main sign. There are a minimum of three "branches" to every sign, the ascendant or "front" people pit up, the moon/emotional aspect and the sun sign - the one we generalize the persons sign by.

Depending on these three "aspects", an Aries - for example - can come in several flavours, from quiet, passive and nice to loud, egomaniac's who're arrogant and have to win - always. There are a half dozen other shall we say mini-aspects, that fall into more minor traits and the persons inclinations, but I can't remember the names and roles of these.

Anyway, nobody who understands more than th very most basic info about starsigns would suggest a Virgo is like *this*, because there are all konds of virgos, but most of them have characteristics thst fit the sign, same with all the other signs.

The reason you should at least pomder their legitimacy, isn't because they're hocus pocus clairvoyant crap, but scientifically quite feasible.

The most solid connection that "clicked" for me onr day, was while I was watching the moon one night, and thought aboit the pull of the tides. Now, if one tiny moon has enough electro-magnetic power to suck the entire ocean into a swell and move it constantly around the planet - just our moon thst is - and gravity can have such an effect on everything on earth, surely other, much larger planets can influence a *very* sensitive developing unborn fetus in subtle ways?

That's a question I posed myself, and one that led me to the conclusin that, really, it might not have been *proven* yet by science, but it's absolutely possible.

How this astrological data is interpreted by biased humans is debatable, but I can't see why all those planets stuck in orbit with such megalithic force can't affect we, the little bug-like creatures of the universe, mmm?

Sorry bout the typos, ipad onscreen keyboard in the dark an' all.

As for the effeminate visitor, I disn't care a week ago when zi was told he was coming to visit, loke any other house-guest. Well, I didn't think much of his snivly demeanor and weak handshake when I met him, but to suddenly find out my plans to leave amicably in the agreed upon timeframe have been replaced with "get out next week, *&%$#! your plans" yeah.

I haven't even been able to have a conversation with her aboit anything, without him skulking around loke her *&%$#! shadow, I mean seriously? The last week I'll be here and I can't even get to converse about typical stuff without him shadowing her, rubbernecking?
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Thu 01 May, 2014 1:43 am

And no, I can't lob at my Mums place for enough time to finish getting my plans organized. Well, I might be alright to, but she's been heavily medicated for decades now, and she's surprisingly difficult to live with, because of this. You engage in a conversation with her, and her input throughout the convo is usually, "ahh".. Or "mmhmm" or "I don't know". All conversations are painfully predictable like that, which would get on anyones nerves, since it's like talking to someone who's in a half-asleep daze.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby icefest » Thu 01 May, 2014 2:09 am

Tides are actually caused by gravity and not electro-magnetic power. Gravity is indistinguishable from inertial mass; i.e. acceleration movement (Einstein's equivalence principle). Lastly, a mothers movements are indistinguishable from the moons gravitational attraction to the baby and on the orders of magnitude higher. (I w3nt and calculated the gravitational attraction of the moon at the surface of the earth and, rounded to 3 significant digits it is 0.00ms^-2)

Definitely not proven by science as you can't prove the null hypothesis. 

That being said, can you move in with any other family members (father/siblings/cousins), at least for a couple of weeks while you get your stuff together? If you are from NSW anyway you'll have a home base to start from.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Thu 01 May, 2014 11:43 am

Maybe some other family member. Not my Father though I don't even know if he's alive lr dead. The issue is I didn't bother staying in contact with family when I moved to Adelaide ten years ago now, so asking them for anything now is pretty dodgey.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Thu 01 May, 2014 11:46 am

icefest wrote:Tides are actually caused by gravity and not electro-magnetic power. Gravity is indistinguishable from inertial mass; i.e. acceleration movement (Einstein's equivalence principle). Lastly, a mothers movements are indistinguishable from the moons gravitational attraction to the baby and on the orders of magnitude higher. (I w3nt and calculated the gravitational attraction of the moon at the surface of the earth and, rounded to 3 significant digits it is 0.00ms^-2)

Definitely not proven by science as you can't prove the null hypothesis. 

That being said, can you move in with any other family members (father/siblings/cousins), at least for a couple of weeks while you get your stuff together? If you are from NSW anyway you'll have a home base to start from.


And it's still the gravity of the moon :)

All the planets have that gravitational pull, I should've thought more carefully about terminology before stating electro-magnetic, sure ;)
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Thu 01 May, 2014 11:47 am

I'll just go as is. Get the stove, the filter, a plastic raincoat and [edit by moderator, obscenity removed] go.

I didn't spend $2K and 2 months research and prep for so,e [obscenity removed] to [obscenity removed] it on me. /spits
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby north-north-west » Thu 01 May, 2014 5:43 pm

Myself wrote:Which reminds me of the most prominent clash: Her constantly wanting to dominate. I like women who are manifestly female, not control-freaks, cos *I* am a control freak too, so she wouldn't let me, and there's no way in hell I'd ever let her be dominant, everything else sloughed-out of that.

I'm starting to side with the woman to a fair degree. Who the hell needs a man who insists on making himself feel bigger by trying to make them feel smaller?
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby corvus » Thu 01 May, 2014 6:58 pm

Myself wrote:And no, I can't lob at my Mums place for enough time to finish getting my plans organized. Well, I might be alright to, but she's been heavily medicated for decades now, and she's surprisingly difficult to live with, because of this. You engage in a conversation with her, and her input throughout the convo is usually, "ahh".. Or "mmhmm" or "I don't know". All conversations are painfully predictable like that, which would get on anyones nerves, since it's like talking to someone who's in a half-asleep daze.


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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Thu 01 May, 2014 8:02 pm

north-north-west wrote:
Myself wrote:Which reminds me of the most prominent clash: Her constantly wanting to dominate. I like women who are manifestly female, not control-freaks, cos *I* am a control freak too, so she wouldn't let me, and there's no way in hell I'd ever let her be dominant, everything else sloughed-out of that.

I'm starting to side with the woman to a fair degree. Who the hell needs a man who insists on making himself feel bigger by trying to make them feel smaller?


Yeah making a judgement based on a line of text is your perogative, though you're wrong.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Tortoise » Thu 01 May, 2014 8:15 pm

G'day Myself,

I haven't really been following this thread, but gave it a quick skim. I think you mentioned you might be interested in a WWOOFER farm in the short term. I have friends near Nimbin who often have WWOOFERs on their place, though I haven't been in touch with them for a good while. No promises - they may not be wanting any workers just now - but is it worth me getting in touch with them to check it out?

No worries if your plans are firmer elsewhere.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Fri 02 May, 2014 2:04 am

For absolutely no reason at all that I can see, she's decided ahe wants me on a train gone on Sayurday.

That's one day to pack *everything* I'm permenantly taking, and be gone. I'm actually dumbfounded anyone can treat anyone like that. Thursday was so fast it made me sad, now it's one day away :(

The only thing i can think is she wants me out the way for the other [obscenity removed] and her to grope at each other.

Three years I been with her. Seriously, what a dog way to treat me.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby perfectlydark » Fri 02 May, 2014 6:38 am

Might I recommend perhaps a few weeks in the bush first before going permanent? Give yourself time to really get a feel for it
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Leiothrix » Fri 02 May, 2014 8:30 am

Myself wrote:And it's still the gravity of the moon :)


No, the moon doesn't have a real lot to do with it.

The land mass of the earth is rotating, so is the water mass, so is the air mass.

Gravity holds it together of course. Centripetal force, land masses in the way and convection due to the heat differentials between the equator and poles are what cause the tides and currents.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby icefest » Fri 02 May, 2014 11:01 am

Leiothrix wrote:
Myself wrote:And it's still the gravity of the moon :)


No, the moon doesn't have a real lot to do with it.

The land mass of the earth is rotating, so is the water mass, so is the air mass.

Gravity holds it together of course. Centripetal force, land masses in the way and convection due to the heat differentials between the equator and poles are what cause the tides and currents.

Not sure what you're trying to say..

Fact is, gravity of satellites is what causes tides and tidal forces. Sure, there's a significant variation in tidal heights due to bathymetry and oscillatory harmonics but it's mostly due to the moons gravity (sol has a slight effect too).

Currents are caused by convection, wind, and tides; just as what you said.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby andrewa » Fri 02 May, 2014 8:43 pm

Icefest, you're too *&%$#! scientific. You'd make a good doctor!

Myself, what are you going to do with all your other *&%$#! that's no doubt been accumulated over a few years?

And, are you sure you're not dong some psychosocial project for Uni????!

I still haven't got my head around this whole thread. I'm suspecting some underlying issues might come to a head.

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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby geoskid » Fri 02 May, 2014 9:00 pm

Myself wrote:For absolutely no reason at all that I can see, she's decided ahe wants me on a train gone on Sayurday.

That's one day to pack *everything* I'm permenantly taking, and be gone. I'm actually dumbfounded anyone can treat anyone like that. Thursday was so fast it made me sad, now it's one day away :(

The only thing i can think is she wants me out the way for the other *&%$#! and her to grope at each other.

Three years I been with her. Seriously, what a dog way to treat me.


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(had a couple of days off considering a PM from a member I respect).

I don't get at all this - "For absolutely no reason at all that I can see, she's decided ahe wants me on a train gone on Sayurday."
I call *&^%$#!. You need to try harder to understand other points of view that have been explained to you, no doubt for a long time. If you want help, you will get it, but reasonable people will expect you to take reasonable steps to help yourself.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Fri 02 May, 2014 9:23 pm

Don't matter the underlying reasons anymore, I had a mate come take my plants away (year old coffee and tea plants, and a few others) so they've gone to a good home, and while he was here we had a chat, so I am level-keeled again to not give a [obscenity removed] aboit the woman junk, and have booked my ticket to Sydney for Sunday Afternoon.

He also left me a bag of err good stuff, which was nice of him, and having a rant perspectived how little I'm leaving behind.

Today, I went and grabbed the stove, water purifcation tablets and a few other things, so I'll be heading for the mountains wednesday or thursday: So after a bump in the road, te plan marches onward. ;)
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby geoskid » Fri 02 May, 2014 10:11 pm

Myself wrote:Don't matter the underlying reasons anymore, I had a mate come take my plants away (year old coffee and tea plants, and a few others) so they've gone to a good home, and while he was here we had a chat, so I am level-keeled again to not give a *&%$#! aboit the woman junk, and have booked my ticket to Sydney for Sunday Afternoon.

He also left me a bag of err good stuff, which was nice of him, and having a rant perspectived how little I'm leaving behind.

Today, I went and grabbed the stove, water purifcation tablets and a few other things, so I'll be heading for the mountains wednesday or thursday: So after a bump in the road, te plan marches onward. ;)


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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Sat 03 May, 2014 8:45 am

I know myself just fine. It's my utter rejection of modern social fakeness that clashes with many people.

Should I just drink the cool-aid like every other fool, when I've managed to resist submitting for so many years?
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby north-north-west » Sat 03 May, 2014 10:44 am

Myself wrote:I know myself just fine. It's my utter rejection of modern social fakeness that clashes with many people.

Should I just drink the cool-aid like every other fool, when I've managed to resist submitting for so many years?

Spending so much time talking about it in here suggests that you haven't resisted all that well.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby neilmny » Sat 03 May, 2014 11:11 am

Myself wrote:I know myself just fine. It's my utter rejection of modern social fakeness that clashes with many people................


I doubt anyone at all is concerned about your rejection of modern social fakeness....why would they be......there's probably a stack of people out there who feel the same way.

I hope you find peace somewhere along the line but it's in your hands. Good luck.
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Re: Camping as permanent accomodation

Postby Myself » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:22 pm

Yeah well I'm on a bus for Sydney.

Once there, I'll dump my laptop and non-camping stuff for safe storage, buy same food and a few gas cannisters for the stove, then get on the train to Katoomba.
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