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The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby wayno » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 10:42 am

The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

http://www.outsideonline.com/2010476/en ... -ding-salt

Been popping salt pills like M&Ms during long workouts thinking they’ll do your body good? You might want to think again: According to St. Louis University nutrition and dietetics professor, Dr. Ted Weiss, extra sodium from concentrated sources like salt capsules doesn’t actually enhance athletic performance. In fact, downing the pills may even cause hypertension.

“A lot of sports nutrition practices directly contradict what we know about positive health practices,” Weiss says. “Just because something makes you run faster doesn’t mean it’s healthy. Cocaine does that too, but that doesn't mean it's good for you.”

For years, the FDA has recommended Americans take in no more than 2,300 milligrams of sodium per day. But endurance athletes can easily exceed that amount when they gulp electrolyte capsules during exercise—some pills are stuffed with more than 200 milligrams of sodium each.

“A lot of people think salt is critical for performance, but there’s really not any convincing evidence of that,” Weiss says. Though the pills are advertised to help minimize cramps, heat stress, and fatigue, many studies have found there’s not much of a link between these issues and salt intake. In fact, a recent study Weiss and his colleagues published in the Journal of Sports Science and Medicine found salt supplementation had no effect on performance during a moderate two-hour run.

“Just because something makes you run faster doesn’t mean it’s healthy,” Ted Weiss says. “Cocaine does that. But you don’t see cocaine at aid stations.”

For this study, athletes consumed about half the amount of salt they’d lost through sweat, or 900 milligrams per hour. That salt intake, the researchers concluded, “did not have a significant effect on sweat rate…heat stress, skin temperature, rating of perceived exertion, or time to exhaustion in trained endurance athletes.”

Even athletes participating in ultra-distance events should reconsider the use of salt pills explains Dr. Martin Hoffman, Research Director of the Western States Endurance Run, who's found that supplemental sodium isn't necessary, even at that grueling 100 mile distance. "It won’t prevent hyponatremia, muscle cramps or GI symptoms," he wrote in an email. "It will help runners maintain a higher body weight, but excessive sodium intake may also promote overhydration, and actually be a risk for development of exercise-associated hyponatremia."

That’s not to say athletes don’t need salt. “The general consensus from sports nutrition is that there’s probably a somewhat higher need for salt in endurance athletes than in the general population,” Weiss says. But most athletes are getting more than enough salt through their normal diets “just by virtue of eating more food to fuel their exercise.” Someone training for a marathon, for instance, may eat two sandwiches instead of one for lunch, or twice as many calories as a sedentary person. On top of that, the 2,300 milligram per day limit is generous, Weiss says. The general population should be getting closer to 1,500 milligrams per day. In other words, if you’re getting in 2,300 milligrams per day, you’re already getting more than the general population needs.

Yes, the threat of hyponatremia, or low blood sodium, is real. But Weiss argues that it’s a minor issue for most people, while the chance of over salting—and the associated side effects of high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease—is much greater.

If you’re a salt supplementer, Weiss recommends reducing your intake and seeing if you notice any adverse effects. “Keep it under 2,300 milligrams a day,” he says. “If you feel like you need more, use it cautiously, and only when the workouts are long and hard and hot
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 11:02 am

How many people actually 'over replace'? I suspect not many.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby vicrev » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 11:20 am

Always wondered about vitamin pill supplements, too....
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby Gadgetgeek » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 11:24 am

Considering the bad info that is out there, I would not be surprised if there was a group of people who where. I've run across info from "experts" that makes all kinds of no sense, and people still follow it.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 11:26 am

Vitamin is quite different as they don't get sweated out. Yes, for those of on a healthy diet, there's no need to supplement.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby wayno » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 11:45 am

the average westerner gets far more salt than they need, in the form of sodium, its the other minterals they may be in short supply of at times when tey get issues like cramp, potassium calcium , magnesium

b vitamins can be a problem, some supplements have massive quantities as a selling point and they become diuretics causing loss of minerals. and they arent that good for your metabolism

http://www.acu-cell.com/bx.html
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby Drummo62 » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 12:13 pm

Thanks Wayno - salt tablets probably do more harm than good and I have learnt that from experience. I have run multiple ultra marathons up to 150 miles and almost all ultra runners are well aware of these issues but I suspect many bushwalkers are not. Over hydration which can be made worse by salt tablets is a very real risk. On multi day hikes, I will have an electrolyte replacement drink at the end of the day and while it does contain sodium it also has a balance of potassium, calcium and magnesium.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby nq111 » Fri 28 Aug, 2015 7:21 pm

Good article.

Why is salt actually in sweat? It certainly doesn't help cooling, salty water evaporates more slowly than pure.

My understanding is that it was more as a way of excreting it as a waste product. If so you would expect to stop sweating out salt if you are approaching a deficiency.

Certainly if you exercise and sweat a lot over a number of days your sweat gets fresher and much less salty. I have seen this discussed in heat training articles as well as having experienced it myself.

On the flip side it was my understanding that the dangers of eat a bit too much salt have been historically exaggerated, at least for most healthy people, as salt is pretty efficiently excreted from the system.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby wayno » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 3:04 pm

my understanding is that the body is supposed to use minerals to move fluid around different parts of the body, including excreting fluid... the water is attracted to the minerals.
a well aclimatised person to heat can have half the amount of salt in their sweat as an unaclimatised person.
i think thats one of the problems with low sodium levels the body cant hold water in the volumes it wants to in the places it wants to and water changes its concentrations around the body causing cells to swell up with extra water volumes when you ingest too much water and your sodium levels fall.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby Gadgetgeek » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 4:20 pm

that's pretty much how I understand it, but there are a lot of ion channels in the body that need to be kept in balance, sodium, calcium, magnesium, and potassium, but really everything needs to be in balance. I think one of the major problems with pushing a lot of salt (Sodium Chloride) into your body is that the sodium can get in the way of some of the other ions, making the system less efficient. And each part of your body is adapted to use its specific ion channel, so subbing them out doesn't work well. Kinda like how CO binds really well to hemoglobin, but that tends to be bad for you.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 4:37 pm

Body's homeostasis mechanism has limits. Go beyond it and the whole system will fail. It's just that simple. Just stay within the available latitude and don't over do it. The hard part for most is knowing what is an acceptable range.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby wayno » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 4:41 pm

people vary in how they handle sodium, some people are "sodium sensitive" and high doses that some people cope with would adversely affect the health of others. i havent been diagnosed as sodium sensitive but i wouldnt be surprised if I am. i get very tired on a high salt diet.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby slparker » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 6:33 pm

Sodium is excreted by the kidney. Why is it in sweat? Don't know but probably because it's energy costlyfor the body to completely separate Out all the sodium by the sweat gland and to do so might require potassium exchange by these glands.
Also, just sweating water might well lead to hypernatraemia.
Anyway fit people tend to sweat less concentrated sweat, I remember reading...
Back to the article, I don't remember in my 47 years ever seeing salt tablets in use or for purchase. I think it's an American thing.
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby Gadgetgeek » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 6:51 pm

Thats funny, because no one I knew in Canada used salt pills, everyone assumed it was an Aussie thing! Maybe nobody does, but just thinks others do?
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Re: The Truth About Endurance Athletes and Salt

Postby vicrev » Sat 29 Aug, 2015 8:46 pm

Not so long ago next to the factory drinking water cooler,there just about always a salt pill dispenser & on a hot day people used to gobble them like Smarties,thinking if they did not partake, they would surely pass out...how attitudes change.... :wink:
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